"I'm going to say that we can fight fire with water, but that works, right? Which is kind of what I was talking about. Like if I can do this, I avoided a lot of problems."
"I call up my, like, don't buy a $10 solution to a $5 problem."
"This is very rarely a technology or a money problem. Very rarely. Like we have the tools that we need, we own them, we have them, we can buy them. That's not the hard part. The hard part is the people process leadership aspect."
"So you kind of approach it. You're like, all right. So first we're going to get visibility to the problem, then we are going to quickly stop the bleeding and then we're going to make progress over time."
"For example, if I have the leadership ability to get to 100% strong MFA, every single employee has strong MFA, do I care about super-duper AI-generated phishing emails? Not really."